Views on Unemployment

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Mainstream economics claims that full employment brings inflation, and some unemployment (often called ‘natural’) is inevitable. During bad times, like today, unemployment rises significantly from its ‘natural’ level and bites even more harshly. We at Mecpoc believe that full employment should be the primary target of economic policy. As our chosen topic of exploration, we set out to ask Franklin students for their opinion on unemployment and the implications their major has taught them. Here include extracts of the responses from three Franklin College students: Caitlin Morris (Comparative Literature and Culture Studies major), William Turner (International Relations major), and James Jasper (History major).


QUESTION: Do you think unemployment is only a problem for the jobless, or do you think unemployment has other ramifications on society?
A: William: [Unemployment] does have a lot of implications for society as a whole. There is a
moral issue—yeah people have no income and no way to support themselves and their dependents; it’s obviously an important issued for society as a whole. There is a divide between the Anglo-Saxon model and the Continentals. There are Germany and France where they have a big social security net that helps you deal with being unemployed… whereas the Anglo-Saxon countries have much more liberal markets and its much less humanitarian almost where there is little regard to the effects of firing someone and its done and of course you have the whole argument about economics about whether its easier and you don’t want to end up like France where it is impossible to fire someone because they have such strict labor laws… it’s a question of balance between the two models especially in Europe.

QUESTION: From the perspective of your field of study, in what ways does unemployment harm people and society?
A: Caitlin: I think that a lot of people especially in my major are rushing off to grad school cause
that’s all that you can really do unless you are one of the very few talented people who can say I’m going to go be a writer. I think that there’s going to be a lot of issues because there are so many people with loans. There is going to be an entire generation that is going to be massively in debt.
A: James: For a present day example – Unemployment is difficult to describe in historical
context because we haven’t seen the full implications yet. We don’t know what is going to happen yet. But if what is going on today were to be written down in history books, it wouldn’t be written down as wholly economical. I think, at least in the US, you’ve seen a fundamental shift in the type of economy. I think we’re finally seeing a shift into a more service-based economy. And even a recession like this, which is a fairly bad recession, has had a massive effect on the manufacturing sector and unskilled workers. I think that’s the group that’s been hit the hardest – this kind of middle class of the United States. Historically, it’s going to be interesting to see the consequences of this. I think in the future we might have a higher rate of unemployment than we’ve had in the past. I think a lot of it is based on expectations of trade with China, which is really not that bad of a trade deficit at all, and perception among the public. Politically, I think it will end up with the Democrats in power, at least until things are fixed.

QUESTION: What do you think governments can do to reach full employment?
A: William: There should always be some room for unemployment. I don’t know to what extent
that is true but as long as it’s frictional and cyclical as long as it’s not the structural one you don’t want to end up like Europe where you have workers that have to change their skill set. There are social affects that’s what you really want to avoid but aside from that there is a [natural level of unemployment] and that is normal—that creates flexibility and people can go and change jobs and not just do one job forever so that’s a good thing.
A: James: As a history major, I think full employment is very difficult. The only time full
employment was achieved was when you had an agricultural or subsistence farm base
without skill specialization or you’ve had a communist type of economy. I was
recently reading a report in the NY Times that North Koreans who had crossed the border to South Korea had actually found the capitalist system “oppressive” because they couldn’t just go to their factory and work 8 hours a day, but now there were additional forces on them to achieve even more. I think that in the capitalist system, it’s something the government should strive for, but there will always be transitional unemployment that occurs and an inability to utilize people to their fullest capacity. And without a switch to a command type economy, it’s impossible to have complete full employment. Not to say that you can’t bring it low, but it’s impossible to get it down to 0%. The system works in such a way that since you’re not utilizing all a person’s time and effort and that they have individual free will and rights, it makes it impossible to achieve something along the lines of full employment in a capitalist system.

QUESTION: How will unemployment affect you, based on your field of study?
A: Caitlin: It’s going to be a challenge. I don’t want to do grad school right away. It’s cool
because there is a recession: what you are supposed to do is impossible so you have to ask
yourself what you really want to do and you get to be creative as far as how can [you] find something fun to do. It redefines what you do.
A: James: As a history major, I was expecting to be unemployed after I graduated. I feel
like graduate school is almost necessary for a history major to get more specialized. History majors often do well in business. Personally, I would really like to work at a museum which I think I could get because we are becoming more scarce and rare. But despite the fact that we are scarce, I think we will still be affected. Liberal arts tend to suffer, so I think I will be fairly unemployed after I graduate. In terms of the education industry, I think recession is actually not good for it. I feel like it may be a short-term boost, but at the same time the main factors of educational institutions that give it its capital funds are not there. I think we’re having a short term bubble in education and once the bubble pops, you will see a fall in the numbers of graduates. I don’t think we’re all pessimistic about graduating, I think we’re a little bit more opportunistic, especially because most of us are graduating at a time where the recession is not as deep. I think currently there is a, and I use this term loosely, fetishism with university education. You see students who aren’t necessarily interested or equipped in what they are studying. So, I think the universities are currently in the bubble and they will suffer when the bubble pops. I don’t know how much credit rides on university education, but it seems like a fair bit.

As one can see from the interview questions above, the term “unemployment” has different implications for those studying fields outside that of economics. While James answered with concrete facts of the past, Caitlin shared personal experiences with unemployment and William offered several common definitions for the term. With such a diverse population at Franklin, the variety of answers were expected and appreciated. This insight can help us understand unemployment and possibly find solutions for it. Mecpoc hopes to continue this survey of Franklin Students and their opinion of different economic theories, policies and practices. If you are interested in participating in an interview or writing your own article, please contact jpatriarca@mecpoc.org.

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Zachary Levy

June 3rd, 2010 at 23:20

“And without a switch to a command type economy, it’s impossible to have complete full employment.” -James

I thought this was a very pertinent point. While I agree that the current market infrastructure would not allow for full unemployment as the situation stands, I would argue that a complete change to a command based economy isn’t necessary either.

The labor market now picks and chooses the (theoretically) most qualified applicants from the pool of unemployed. What is needed to accomplish full employment is a centrally commanded organization, as James suggested. However, that organization only needs to work from the bottom up instead of controlling the entirety of the labor supply. In other words, they would continue hire the least qualified applicants from the unemployed pool until there were no more unemployed leaving the most qualified individuals to the market. This approach would strictly create full employment (0% unemployment). Naturally, there is still the problem of underemployment, but 0% unemployment and some degree of unemployment is still preferable than having unemployment.

See any of the papers on Government as the Employer of Last Resort for more information.

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